I've woken up from a good night's sleep and had a balanced breakfast, so I'm as qualified as I'll ever be to type up a sort of a rant regarding yesterday's happenings in Poop Talk, and YTP as a whole. I put up the (read at your own risk) warning in the title for a reason; these are opinions I'm about to blurt out. You could disagree with them, or they could flat out be wrong, but if you're willing to keep reading what I've typed, please continue.
I'm simply going down the list of topics in my head, and the first one that comes to mind is Spongebob poops. They are what sparked the fire that caused the most recent thread lock. And guess what? Spongebob poops aren't the devil. But Spongebob as a source is indeed overused to hell and back. There are pros and cons of making a Spongebob poop in the world of YTP today. I'll start with pros, because you're probably eager to hear those.
First, if you slap the Spingebill tag on a YTP, it's comparatively more likely to get views than an obscure source would. Good for you. Second, there's always untapped potential with each pooper that tries their hand at making one. They could make a never-before seen joke, or they could use a new episode entirely and blow our minds. Third, if you like Spongebob, and editing his show brings you joy, by all means, do it. That goes for any source, but who are you really out to please?
Okay, con time.
First and foremost, it is overused as fuck. You're not original when you see your favorite pooper rape your mind and decide to follow in his footsteps, and if you think you're making a never-before seen joke, you might be wrong. Second, if you're making it to wow the world, you're appealing to the lowest common denominator. Long story short, Spingebill is a basic bitch. Third, you're at a higher risk of copyright infringement accusations. That little notice you put in the description does literally nothing.
This all applies to me because I made two Spongebob poops myself last year. I slapped them both with the Spingebill tag and now one of them is my most-viewed YTP ever. Even by the average standards of today, it is not a bad YTP by any means, it's just not great. And every pooper is different; a poop isn't automatically bad just because Spongebob. However, if you're not an expert pooper yet, shit times shit is shit squared, so bad editing on an unlinked source is bad medicine. So, to any Chewers who want to use Spongebob as a source in 2014: it's your choice in the end. Just be prepared for some negative criticism, especially about how you could've used any other source.
Next topic. Are some of us taking Youtube Poop too seriously?
It has been made clear that everyone has differing views on YTP. How much are you willing to defend your views? Well, let's think. Poop should never be placed at a higher importance than real life. Poopology is not as important as getting a girlfriend (yet here I am), nor is it something to get a rage-induced aneurysm over. It's a pastime for some, a hobby for others. It's comparable to other interests, like video games. But here comes the counter-argument.
If you're enveloped in something, you have a natural desire to see it done right... or, at least, your definition of right. Some of you have seen too many Spongebob poops, and there in your feed, up comes yet another YTP: Spingebill does gay thing and dies in a creepypasta that does nothing new or innovative. And you wonder why so much potential went down the drain. So WHADDYA DO?
Dislike video. Unsub if subbed. Express your discontent to your friends. Don't you dare post in the comments, or on Youchew, or in a PM to the author saying you're sick of this shit or something.
Did someone make a bad poop? Read above. Did someone's poop offend you? Read above. Did someone ignore me and post a hate message in Poop Talk? Well, there's probably a flame war among members unfamiliar with our etiquette now, so try to change the subject before one of the staff arrives.
There is one exception to my madness. Say it out loud to yourself: constructive criticism. If you find a poop someone posted is less than perfect, respond delicately. Example: Poop contains too much slow-down effects. Say something along the lines of 'you're doing okay, but I felt that the poop was slowed down a bit too long. That joke at 0:XX was good though, so you're headed in the right direction.' Why? Two reasons. The words 'I felt' signal that this is your opinion, and not an excerpt from the almighty rule book of YTP (which doesn't exist). And this sentence was not hostile in any way; you got your opinion out and the pooper isn't discouraged to try again. Am I guilty of being a dick in this type of situation? The answer is shut up, that's in the past, I'm working on it.
Back on having general opinions, if you want to tell the thread about some poopism you dislike, do it without using examples. It's 'I really hate poops that (something)', not 'I really hate (guy)'s poops that (something).' It's 'don't ever do (something) in YOUR poops' without adding 'like how these poops do.' Also, don't say you're tired of MLP poops RIGHT AFTER someone posts their new MLP poop. You can be tired of it, but that's what Youtube the thumbs down button for. Oddly enough, it's a double-standard, if someone does something you like, you SHOULD post your response to it, because everyone here loves to be told someone likes what they do.
A wrap-up of this topic? Okay. You're allowed to have opinions. You're allowed to be passionate about YTP. You're allowed to state your positive and negative opinions about poop in a public forum within reason. You're shouldn't crap on someone's work without trying to be constructive. You shouldn't get worked up over forum posts about YTPs. Better others and they will better you.
Next topic. What poops do I like?
WARNING: This section is more opinionated and less agreeable than the above two sections. I'm going to explore what kinds of poop I like seeing without essentially saying formalities worthy of the staff.
Youtube Poop is a liquid. Not a solid, defined by a rigid shape. Not a gas, where anything anyone makes can be considered a YTP. My personal definition of Youtube Poop is informal video editing with the intent to entertain. We aren't trying to advertise, promote, or otherwise. If we edit a video a fair amount and call it a YTP, it's a YTP. Fair amount meaning Damienangrybirdsfan is not a YTPer (he's just a troll, I swear). Fair amount meaning taking a clip and randomly shit-slinging it just to prove me wrong is not a YTP. It takes effort. There are videos that don't use a tag, and we know they're YTPs either because of the author or the content.
Now, which ones do I prefer? The ones that make jokes. They mask an item in a particular scene and sentence mix the characters to acknowledge the item. Someone in the source is flying, and it's edited to look like they're gonna crash into something. The character is counting, and the King pops in and says FOUR. Throw jokes like that at me consistantly, and I'll throw you a goddamn sub.
The next best thing? Heavy editing with the intent of humor. I'll laugh at a good earrape. A character is going from right to left across the screen, and suddenly there's clones of him in his trail. Someone is talking, his pitch is getting higher, and his head is expanding until it explodes and motherfucking spooky scary skeletons pop out of the hole and start dancing. You know there was no good reason for that to happen, but it's dick-slapping hilarious.
Yes, I'm bent towards funny Youtube Poops, but that's what I come to expect from poops these days. But what kind am I NOT into lately?
I'll start with generic rape effects. Most commonly seen in tennises, they look like spinning acid trips and random clusterfucks. I don't think I've ever been wowed by this type. I look at matches in progress or completed by other people, and I can't be entertained. The only time in like it is if it takes a subject and gets surreal, or tells a story. Send me into trippy-ass space when a character gets knocked into the sky or takes bad medicine. Give it a likeable purpose. Otherwise, I don't see what everyone likes about it.
Then there's the classic style done wrong. Don't get ME wrong, I like classic poops that manage to hold up. But I've seen some poops made in the last couple of years (AoStH and CD-I as sources come to mind, but there are other culprits) that just look... lazy. Oh, you can repeat the same scene repeatedly at different speeds. Oh, you can cut kinda small segments of the clip and throw them in a random order. So, when am I supposed to be entertained? This is basic shit I'm seeing. It was funny five years ago, not so much now. I know you aren't making the poop for me, but if you're editing that lazily and make a ten-minute video out of it in 2014, that's a waste of your time mostly. The guilty culprits doing this are sometimes decently-hailed poopers, and I know they wouldn't die if they tried something new! This is probably the point I'll be disagreed with the most, but while the videos in question are still YTPs and they aim to entertain, they fail in execution, for me at least.
In summarium, I like funny poops. I don't get what rapey/classic poops are going for. I'll excuse poops that come out and say they're intentionally humorless, because I like being left with a message. Good YTPMVs are a-okay too. Neither deserved their own section, but you get the point.
I guess those are the only topics I really wanted to cover after what happened. I guess I'll just leave y'all with my general Youtube Poop tips.
Youtube Poop should not envelop your life, but if you're going to keep making/watching them, take everyone's voice into account and speak yours when necessary, so everyone can get better and laugh more.
Make videos because YOU want to make them. If you want to make them just to make others laugh, do it. If you want to make them to wow your viewer with radical effects, do it. If you want to make them to spite your father and make a bunch of subscribers just to call them your friends, you might have bigger problems, but at least you're delivering content under your jurisdiction.
The forums aren't made for you to get mad at other posters. If there's a disagreement regarding poop, see it as controversy instead of drama, and contribute to the discussion without making others feel down.
I'm you're favorite pooper, no exception. Go watch my material. Now.
Regarding the forums again, jokes are fine, so long as they're not at the expense of others, and they don't pose a threat of derailment.
Please please PLEASE let someone know that you like what they do. Comment under their video in our system, tell them on Skype, whatever, it's just a huge confidence booster that some of us thrive on. It doesn't have to be me, go tell someone you're subbed to in a PM, they WILL appreciate it.
I give off a douchey impression on this site, but I want everyone to know that while we may not consider ourselves brothers and sisters on the site, we were all brought here by Youtube Poop, yet we discuss so much more, so I appreciate you all through your highs and lows. Also, I'm going to pretend like I was never this kind, so be thankful for my brief periods of tolerance.
Sent from my Android Apple iPhone Galaxy Mini S6 using Jack-Off with Tapatalk.
I'm simply going down the list of topics in my head, and the first one that comes to mind is Spongebob poops. They are what sparked the fire that caused the most recent thread lock. And guess what? Spongebob poops aren't the devil. But Spongebob as a source is indeed overused to hell and back. There are pros and cons of making a Spongebob poop in the world of YTP today. I'll start with pros, because you're probably eager to hear those.
First, if you slap the Spingebill tag on a YTP, it's comparatively more likely to get views than an obscure source would. Good for you. Second, there's always untapped potential with each pooper that tries their hand at making one. They could make a never-before seen joke, or they could use a new episode entirely and blow our minds. Third, if you like Spongebob, and editing his show brings you joy, by all means, do it. That goes for any source, but who are you really out to please?
Okay, con time.
First and foremost, it is overused as fuck. You're not original when you see your favorite pooper rape your mind and decide to follow in his footsteps, and if you think you're making a never-before seen joke, you might be wrong. Second, if you're making it to wow the world, you're appealing to the lowest common denominator. Long story short, Spingebill is a basic bitch. Third, you're at a higher risk of copyright infringement accusations. That little notice you put in the description does literally nothing.
This all applies to me because I made two Spongebob poops myself last year. I slapped them both with the Spingebill tag and now one of them is my most-viewed YTP ever. Even by the average standards of today, it is not a bad YTP by any means, it's just not great. And every pooper is different; a poop isn't automatically bad just because Spongebob. However, if you're not an expert pooper yet, shit times shit is shit squared, so bad editing on an unlinked source is bad medicine. So, to any Chewers who want to use Spongebob as a source in 2014: it's your choice in the end. Just be prepared for some negative criticism, especially about how you could've used any other source.
Next topic. Are some of us taking Youtube Poop too seriously?
It has been made clear that everyone has differing views on YTP. How much are you willing to defend your views? Well, let's think. Poop should never be placed at a higher importance than real life. Poopology is not as important as getting a girlfriend (yet here I am), nor is it something to get a rage-induced aneurysm over. It's a pastime for some, a hobby for others. It's comparable to other interests, like video games. But here comes the counter-argument.
If you're enveloped in something, you have a natural desire to see it done right... or, at least, your definition of right. Some of you have seen too many Spongebob poops, and there in your feed, up comes yet another YTP: Spingebill does gay thing and dies in a creepypasta that does nothing new or innovative. And you wonder why so much potential went down the drain. So WHADDYA DO?
Dislike video. Unsub if subbed. Express your discontent to your friends. Don't you dare post in the comments, or on Youchew, or in a PM to the author saying you're sick of this shit or something.
Did someone make a bad poop? Read above. Did someone's poop offend you? Read above. Did someone ignore me and post a hate message in Poop Talk? Well, there's probably a flame war among members unfamiliar with our etiquette now, so try to change the subject before one of the staff arrives.
There is one exception to my madness. Say it out loud to yourself: constructive criticism. If you find a poop someone posted is less than perfect, respond delicately. Example: Poop contains too much slow-down effects. Say something along the lines of 'you're doing okay, but I felt that the poop was slowed down a bit too long. That joke at 0:XX was good though, so you're headed in the right direction.' Why? Two reasons. The words 'I felt' signal that this is your opinion, and not an excerpt from the almighty rule book of YTP (which doesn't exist). And this sentence was not hostile in any way; you got your opinion out and the pooper isn't discouraged to try again. Am I guilty of being a dick in this type of situation? The answer is shut up, that's in the past, I'm working on it.
Back on having general opinions, if you want to tell the thread about some poopism you dislike, do it without using examples. It's 'I really hate poops that (something)', not 'I really hate (guy)'s poops that (something).' It's 'don't ever do (something) in YOUR poops' without adding 'like how these poops do.' Also, don't say you're tired of MLP poops RIGHT AFTER someone posts their new MLP poop. You can be tired of it, but that's what Youtube the thumbs down button for. Oddly enough, it's a double-standard, if someone does something you like, you SHOULD post your response to it, because everyone here loves to be told someone likes what they do.
A wrap-up of this topic? Okay. You're allowed to have opinions. You're allowed to be passionate about YTP. You're allowed to state your positive and negative opinions about poop in a public forum within reason. You're shouldn't crap on someone's work without trying to be constructive. You shouldn't get worked up over forum posts about YTPs. Better others and they will better you.
Next topic. What poops do I like?
WARNING: This section is more opinionated and less agreeable than the above two sections. I'm going to explore what kinds of poop I like seeing without essentially saying formalities worthy of the staff.
Youtube Poop is a liquid. Not a solid, defined by a rigid shape. Not a gas, where anything anyone makes can be considered a YTP. My personal definition of Youtube Poop is informal video editing with the intent to entertain. We aren't trying to advertise, promote, or otherwise. If we edit a video a fair amount and call it a YTP, it's a YTP. Fair amount meaning Damienangrybirdsfan is not a YTPer (he's just a troll, I swear). Fair amount meaning taking a clip and randomly shit-slinging it just to prove me wrong is not a YTP. It takes effort. There are videos that don't use a tag, and we know they're YTPs either because of the author or the content.
Now, which ones do I prefer? The ones that make jokes. They mask an item in a particular scene and sentence mix the characters to acknowledge the item. Someone in the source is flying, and it's edited to look like they're gonna crash into something. The character is counting, and the King pops in and says FOUR. Throw jokes like that at me consistantly, and I'll throw you a goddamn sub.
The next best thing? Heavy editing with the intent of humor. I'll laugh at a good earrape. A character is going from right to left across the screen, and suddenly there's clones of him in his trail. Someone is talking, his pitch is getting higher, and his head is expanding until it explodes and motherfucking spooky scary skeletons pop out of the hole and start dancing. You know there was no good reason for that to happen, but it's dick-slapping hilarious.
Yes, I'm bent towards funny Youtube Poops, but that's what I come to expect from poops these days. But what kind am I NOT into lately?
I'll start with generic rape effects. Most commonly seen in tennises, they look like spinning acid trips and random clusterfucks. I don't think I've ever been wowed by this type. I look at matches in progress or completed by other people, and I can't be entertained. The only time in like it is if it takes a subject and gets surreal, or tells a story. Send me into trippy-ass space when a character gets knocked into the sky or takes bad medicine. Give it a likeable purpose. Otherwise, I don't see what everyone likes about it.
Then there's the classic style done wrong. Don't get ME wrong, I like classic poops that manage to hold up. But I've seen some poops made in the last couple of years (AoStH and CD-I as sources come to mind, but there are other culprits) that just look... lazy. Oh, you can repeat the same scene repeatedly at different speeds. Oh, you can cut kinda small segments of the clip and throw them in a random order. So, when am I supposed to be entertained? This is basic shit I'm seeing. It was funny five years ago, not so much now. I know you aren't making the poop for me, but if you're editing that lazily and make a ten-minute video out of it in 2014, that's a waste of your time mostly. The guilty culprits doing this are sometimes decently-hailed poopers, and I know they wouldn't die if they tried something new! This is probably the point I'll be disagreed with the most, but while the videos in question are still YTPs and they aim to entertain, they fail in execution, for me at least.
In summarium, I like funny poops. I don't get what rapey/classic poops are going for. I'll excuse poops that come out and say they're intentionally humorless, because I like being left with a message. Good YTPMVs are a-okay too. Neither deserved their own section, but you get the point.
I guess those are the only topics I really wanted to cover after what happened. I guess I'll just leave y'all with my general Youtube Poop tips.
Youtube Poop should not envelop your life, but if you're going to keep making/watching them, take everyone's voice into account and speak yours when necessary, so everyone can get better and laugh more.
Make videos because YOU want to make them. If you want to make them just to make others laugh, do it. If you want to make them to wow your viewer with radical effects, do it. If you want to make them to spite your father and make a bunch of subscribers just to call them your friends, you might have bigger problems, but at least you're delivering content under your jurisdiction.
The forums aren't made for you to get mad at other posters. If there's a disagreement regarding poop, see it as controversy instead of drama, and contribute to the discussion without making others feel down.
I'm you're favorite pooper, no exception. Go watch my material. Now.
Regarding the forums again, jokes are fine, so long as they're not at the expense of others, and they don't pose a threat of derailment.
Please please PLEASE let someone know that you like what they do. Comment under their video in our system, tell them on Skype, whatever, it's just a huge confidence booster that some of us thrive on. It doesn't have to be me, go tell someone you're subbed to in a PM, they WILL appreciate it.
I give off a douchey impression on this site, but I want everyone to know that while we may not consider ourselves brothers and sisters on the site, we were all brought here by Youtube Poop, yet we discuss so much more, so I appreciate you all through your highs and lows. Also, I'm going to pretend like I was never this kind, so be thankful for my brief periods of tolerance.
Sent from my Android Apple iPhone Galaxy Mini S6 using Jack-Off with Tapatalk.